Thursday, October 04, 2007

Keith Law (Unfortunately) Lives

For those Friends of the Mog who have been here from the beginning, you are all well aware of my disdain for a failed MLB GM/ baseball "columnist" at ESPN named Keith Law. He is awful, and he voiced his opinion of the recent Walt Jocketty firing in his "blog" on I commented on it, but doubt that he will respond. So it goes... Here is his initial post, followed by my response (in bold):


By (douchebag) Keith Law

What exactly does a GM have to do these days to keep his job?

Walt Jocketty
spent 13 seasons at the helm of the St. Louis Cardinals. In that time, they racked up seven playoff appearances, three National League pennants and a World Championship (an unlikely one, but still, the flag looks the same). Their seven-year run of winning seasons was snapped this year, due in no small part to injuries to Chris Carpenter, Scott Rolen and Jim Edmonds, and 2007 marked just the fourth losing season in Jocketty's tenure. Jocketty was let go due to non-baseball reasons, but sometimes the baseball reasons need to win out. His track record at the major league level includes some outstanding moves:

• He picked up Rolen for a young Placido Polanco back in 2002. Rolen was a star at the time (Ed's Note: he is no longer, yet we signed him to a 34 year extnsion [perhaps a bit of an exaggeration, but it feels that way]) having a down year, with Dallas Green killing him in the press at every opportunity; Rolen hit 15 homers in two-plus months with the Cardinals, finished fourth in the MVP voting in 2004 as he had his best year and the Cardinals won the pennant, and had another excellent year in 2006 before injuries wrecked his season this year. Polanco became a great hitter for average starting in 2005, but the value Rolen provided in the short term made this a slam-dunk for the Cardinals.

• He acquired Edmonds for Kent Bottenfield and then-prospect Adam Kennedy. Bottenfield was out of the majors for good inside of 15 months and Kennedy eventually developed into a fringy regular, but Edmonds became a star, hitting 172 homers with a .410 OBP over the next five years, with great defense in center.

• He picked up a broken-down Carpenter after the 2002 season (Ed's Note: there is a good chance that Law himself let Carpenter go. Fucking moron), and while Carpenter needed another shoulder surgery before he was able to pitch for the Cards, he turned in three fantastic years, winning a Cy Young Award and coming in third the following year. While Jocketty eventually gave Carpenter a huge contract extension, the cost of the initial pickup was minimal; Carpenter came to St. Louis because the Cards offered him a spot on the 40-man roster and Toronto wouldn't.

• He traded an underachieving and soon-to-be-free-agent J.D. Drew to Atlanta for Jason Marquis and Adam Wainwright. Marquis gave the Cardinals two solid years before one awful one, while Wainwright became the closer on the 2006 championship club before becoming an above-average starter this year. Drew spent one year with the Braves before leaving as a free agent.

If Jocketty has had a major failing, it's that the Cardinals' farm system was not especially productive during his tenure, but that area of the business was taken away from him over the last two years, and the team's drafts in that time have not been particularly strong. And that leads into the real reason for the friction that led to Jocketty's departure: the rise of Jeff Luhnow, hired by owner Bill DeWitt and handed increasing amounts of responsibility within baseball operations, to the detriment of several of Jocketty's longtime lieutenants. This situation, where the general manager did not have full authority over his team's scouting and player developments, appears to be unique within the game, and it's all the more unusual given Jocketty's track record and reputation.

St. Louis is now in a difficult spot. If it's true that Luhnow -- who apparently won't be a candidate for the GM position -- is untouchable due to his relationship with the team's primary owner, many GM candidates with backgrounds in either scouting or player development will balk at the position because of how limited their control will be. They may be forced to fill the position from within (John Mozeliak, their former scouting director and now the interim GM, would be a solid choice), or to accept a candidate whose interest in being GM supersedes his concern at the lack of control. Jocketty, meanwhile, should have his pick of positions, as many teams would be thrilled to obtain a GM with his reputation and track record, and you can bet that one of his first questions for a prospective employer will be, "Can I pick my own scouting director?"

I'm sorry Keith, but I have to disagree with your take on this one.

Sure Walt was a great GM for the Cards for quite some time, and sure you cite last year's World Series in your article, despite your outright disdain for the Cards throughout last year's playoffs. Unfortunately, he has been unwilling to pull the trigger on the "big deal" the past few years.

I think that's what most frustrates Cards fans. He wouldn't dare try to make a stretch run trade for an impact player over the past three years. And yes, I realize that, in the past, he has turned miracles with guys like Will Clark and Larry Walker. Heck, even throw in Ronnie Belliard if you want.

The bottom line is that he was upset that his lieutenants were fired over the Luhnow situation. And, as unfortunate as it may be, Luhnow has overseen the Cards' rise from a bottom three farm system to a middle -of-the-road farm system--no small feat considering what kind of a bottomless pit Jocketty's cronies had dug for us over the previous decade.

The problem is here, Jocketty felt Luhnow was some kind of a threat to him, and he felt no restraint in voicing his displeasure to the media, which, as a loyal Cards fan, was downright unprofessional.

I mean, come on now, Keith. You're certainly familiar with front office politics. I find it hard to believe that you take a strictly objective view here without offering your "inside analysis" as to how this all went down, especially if you were present in Toronto when the Dave Stewart debacle went down (I’m not sure if you were, but even so, I think your role on ESPN is to try to “pierce the veil” a bit between Joe Fan and management. Give us some insight, for crying out loud!

Ultimately, Walt Jocketty was a phenomenal GM for the Cards, and I will agree that he put some amazing trades together in his day. Combined with the respect that he receives from fellow front office types, I can see why you would contest his firing. That said, I’m not surprised at his firing given the unrest in the front office, Walt’s open discontent, and the toxic work environment it created for those involved. For once, I think Bill DeWitt has greater insight than the fans do as to the inner workings of the Cards organization, and, even as a DeWitt skeptic, I actually trust his judgment on this one.

Go ahead, make some pithy joke at my expense. Still, I don’t think you’re really getting to the guts of this one like ESPN is paying you to do.


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Sunil said...

Umm, Keith Law went to Harvard and Carnegie Mellon (I learned that from an in flight magazine). I think that trumps your Dartmouth, UVA combo. Ergo, Law is right. Better luck next time.

(P.S. My feeble education inclines me to agree with you.)

DJGel said...

What in-flight magazine was that? Did Sky magazine do a piece on washed up losers who try to suck up to GMs in a vain attempt to get on their new staff? I mean, Jesus, Keith, why don't you just send Walt your resume like everyone else.

Damn him and his education! He's too smart. You;re right, Yosh, I'll know my role in the future.

Sunil said...

American Way. I can't find the actual article, but here's a reasonable facsimile:

Eric said...

Wait a minute. Let me get this straight: Kieth Law says that "Jockety was let go due to non-baseball reasons, but sometimes the baseball reasons need to win out." He goes on to explain exactly what those "baseball reasons" are, and provides a caveat regarding the problems with the farm system.

You then respond that he is a moron because he doesn't delve deeper into "inner workings" of the organization, even though the whole point of his article was precisely that 'baseball reasons' should win out. You then end by justifying his ENTIRE ARGUMENT by indicating that "Ultimately, Walt Jocketty was a phenomenal GM for the Cards. I will agree that he put some amazing trades together in his day." So was there anything substantive about Law's article that you actually disagreed with? Or was it that you felt he should have written more substantively about something he acknowledged was the real reason for the firing, even though the whole point of the article was that he was fired for the wrong reasons? Cause from here is sounds like you're simply agreeing with everything a "moron" says. Or you're just a moron who misses the point because your pissed at some chat comments he has made ... comments undoubtedly detailing how you've missed the point

DJGel said...

I'm not sure I follow your logic, Eric. My whole point is that, though Jocketty used to be a good general manager, he NO LONGER WAS WILLING TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS TO BETTER THE TEAM. That, COMBINED WITH with his grumbling to members of the media, is what got him fired.

I'm not sure how that really dovetails with Law's argument at all. Law argues that Jocketty IS STILL A GREAT GM, and that he was pushed out for SOLELY NON-BASEBALL REASONS.

I mean, honestly, go through and read each argument again. If you really can't tell a difference, well, I hope you're not a lawyer (or a judge).